tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578833720240312331.post6247622512050819582..comments2021-03-31T00:53:27.107-05:00Comments on Antagonist Relations: An Excerpt from the Legend of Kamerlane Clovertail, the Doom Bringer (to his enemies)Zackhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00160896715905106123noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578833720240312331.post-10588000491237793122012-10-18T15:34:11.443-05:002012-10-18T15:34:11.443-05:00I think if I played Kam again, I'd encourage n...I think if I played Kam again, I'd encourage new players to work themselves into the Clovertail story. <br /><br />With Fading Suns, three of the players are playing Merchant Guild members and deciding to be drinking/gambling buddies, I'm going to challenge them to come up with drinking stories of the kind like "Do you remember when that noble got drunk and accused you of picking his pocket and I saved your ass in the fight with a whiskey bottle?"<br /><br />With Reign the players thought up really sketchy relationships at character creation, but then never really worked them into their role playing. Hopefully my re-emphasizing their needing to have relationships to each other will be less intrusive since it's only the 3rd session and since, in theory, some of the relationships were there to start, they just have been under-utilized (in my opinion).<br /><br />I'm going to put up a full post on Fading Suns tonight (hopefully) so you'll get to see a bit more of the low down on Fading Suns in that post.Zackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160896715905106123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578833720240312331.post-6481079428051471912012-10-18T13:00:23.111-05:002012-10-18T13:00:23.111-05:00If we went back it would be Bill and Kam, with oth...If we went back it would be Bill and Kam, with other characters like the Drow you made that Cassandra played. Everyone else would have either died or 'changed' drastically.<br /><br />I think it's hard to have those built in dynamic relationships UNLESS the Players take the time to build them in first. OR unless the DM engineers them into the game prior to the start. Once the game gets going it's to hard to interject them in randomly.<br /><br />I just think that there are Bill, Kam, and other characters in that group who have tales left to tell, and I'd like to be a part of that. I love what your donig with REIGN, so much so that I'm going to try and borrow some of the 'buidling blocks' of it from here on out. I'm unfamiliar with Fading Suns, what's the low down on it?CitizenBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438105613157165290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578833720240312331.post-89323459273105982322012-10-17T13:24:14.069-05:002012-10-17T13:24:14.069-05:00I would love to play as Kam Clovertail again, espe...I would love to play as Kam Clovertail again, especially if at least one of the other Clovertail siblings was there. I really regret that I didn't do as good a job at giving my Reign players nice relationships the way that the Clovertails had a easy relationship that we could just jump into that game knowing that we were going to be crazy kids but ultimately, when push came to shove, we'd have each other's backs.<br /><br />It wasn't just that we were heroes doing heroic things for heroic reasons that made that game for me, it really was the relationship between Bill and Kam and Kit that was great. Having Kam and Kit run to and fro causing chaos and Bill as the exasperated older brother going "ho boy, here we go again" and trying to keep us from getting into more trouble than we could handle. One of my big regrets with Sid is that Bob and I didn't do more with the brotherly relationship between Sid and Max, probably because as character concepts, neither needed a brother, so it was just a background detail, whereas with the Clovertails, being siblings was part of the core of the characters.<br /><br />Maybe I'll have to come up with a list of relationships for the Reign players to choose so that I can cement more of what they are to each other. I did a bit with my new Fading Suns game and I think I'm going to do even more with that.Zackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00160896715905106123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7578833720240312331.post-38800007875024452402012-10-17T12:51:28.037-05:002012-10-17T12:51:28.037-05:00Sometimes I forget just how friggin' wonderful...Sometimes I forget just how friggin' wonderful that group was even for the limited amount of time it ran.<br /><br />Bob and I discussed going back to it once or twice a year and giving those who want it it a chance to play a self-contained adventure with those characters. They'd have leveled and lived a bit since then, but they'd still be Kam & Bill. Bob seemed rather delighted with the prospect of this. What do you think about it?<br /><br />The 'vibe' difference between that group and this group are tangible, as you pointed out in another blog, this group had an old school feel to it. Heroes doing heroic things for heroic reasons. It's quite the difference from the 'egocentric' anti-heroes group that is currently in play. <br /><br />I think having an opportunity to jump back to the remenants of this group, it's the same world after all, and play out some of their adventures could be real fun.CitizenBenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04438105613157165290noreply@blogger.com